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Question

How do I reference a book? Nebuchadnezzar7658 (talk) 01:22, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

@Nebuchadnezzar7658 This page may be helpful. Cosmikdebris (talk) 02:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm also having trouble uploading images. It keeps telling "There is another file on the site with the same content". It's really frustrating. Nebuchadnezzar7658 (talk) 03:27, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Some Questions

Can I get out of Vandalism ban?

Hi, how are you? I see that I am currently at Vandalism ban for a reason that I don't know and being limited to edit something once a 30 mins really kill my productivity. I think its probably because of me undoing the reverts made to my edits, which are actually so annoying and non-based political biases as you seem to agree on me about that. But if it is because my edits to the Pirate Party section, that I added criticism of PPI that open, I understand. If its because of that or something that really damages RationalWiki, I acknowledge every of those actions with apology and demand removal from Vandalism bin. --Comrade-yutyo (talk) 15:03, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@Comrade-yutyo I've removed you from the vandal bin so you can address your article concerns on the relevant talk pages. Please do not edit-war articles! Thanks. Cosmikdebris (talk) 15:13, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Another Issue

There is also another issue about the Autopatrolled rank you gave me is groundlessly removed by User:DuceMoosolini, who also reverts my contributions to a specific page without any valid reference, excuse or base. --Comrade-yutyo (talk) 15:03, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

If you feel you've been treated badly please address it on the moderator notice board instead of individual user talk pages. Cosmikdebris (talk) 15:13, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Communism compromise

I'm not comfortable with arbitrarily deciding that historical communist states can't be called communist. However, I do acknowledge that there are many benevolent forms of communism. What if we simply added details about those good forms as well as the historically failed versions of communism? Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 21:35, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@DuceMoosolini That sounds like a deal. Oxyaena Harass 05:47, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
@DuceMoosolini you still make that fallacy, as those so called "historically failed versions of communism" aren't anything more then planned economies that had the goal of it. In your logic, Social democracy must be "example of communism" as it has the Bernsteinist root of having it as a goal in the long term. --Comrade-yutyo (talk) 21:56, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
Neither social democracy nor Bernie Sanders have the stated end goal of establishing an "ideal" communist state. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 22:05, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
@DuceMoosolini your scatty view towards politics and biased reverts makes it impossible to differenciate you from the palls of Conservapedia. Let's clarify some stuff, huh?
  • Bernie Sanders isn't a social democrat.
  • Social Democracy is found upon Marxist roots and divided from mainstream Marxism after Bernsteinism, which doesn't mean it separated from Communism but kept the goal of it in a long term. (Yet you undoed that contribution of me as well, which is based and still debated between philosophers, yet your dimwitted perspective of politics makes it hard for you to understand such ideological discussions)
  • "Communist State" doesn't necessarily mean "The State that Achieved Communism" as there is no state in Communism. It roughly means a state that has the goal of it, which makes every social democratic and other type of government that has such a goal in any term "a Communist State", which you woodenly match with Marxist/Leninist Keyneysian Planned Economies and cite Communism as "an authoritive ideology". You also revert every based contribution made against your biased, wooden attitude, which makes you same with the mods at Conservapedia, which is the reason that wiki is found from the first place. --Comrade-yutyo (talk) 22:41, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
See, I was trying to resolve the issue. Now you're just throwing insults at me. You can try to be productive, or I can start imposing penalties on you. Also, social democracy being communism would come as a hell of a surprise to Sweden and Denmark. Pizza SLICE.gifChef Moosolini’s Ristorante ItalianoMake a Reservation 23:01, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
How not-authoritarian you are by threating me with penalties, as you can't even stand to the criticism of your lack of understanding regarding politics. I would prefer to be banned rather than uncorrectly calling Marxist/Leninist states as Communism, and other non-based mostly conservative-originated dogma. --Comrade-yutyo (talk) 23:08, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
PS: And again, you associate the cause with the tool, which is a logical fallacy that isn't officially named yet or I don't know the name. --Comrade-yutyo (talk) 23:11, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Nitro Milk Slut‎

Can this 'explosive milksop' who created that name earlier today (BST timezone) be blocked or renamed. Anna Livia (talk) 22:34, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Evidence please

If you’re going to block someone for ban evasion pls provide evidence of it. Show me the evidence and I’ll happily reblock them. AceModerator 09:07, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

User unblocked. See above. AceModerator 09:45, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Everybody agrees to block them. Oxyaena Harass 09:46, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Irrelevant. User hasn't broken any rules. AceModerator 09:47, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
sigh You're really dense, aren't you? Oxyaena Harass 09:48, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Pls show me what rules the user has broken. I'll happily reblock. AceModerator 09:49, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Please review the community standards regarding long term blocks. AceModerator 10:05, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

If there's one thing we agree with...

...is that cops who plant drugs onto innocent people deserve much worse sentences than serial killers. I am not going to budge from that stance. At the very least, serial killers don't pretend to uphold society as upstanding citizens we're supposed to expect deal with criminals. БaбyЛuigiOнФire🚓(T|C) 10:06, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Retired template

Out of curiosity why do you have a "retired" template on your page?Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 19:33, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Are you implying that her retirement is not everything it ought to be?Ariel31459 (talk) 19:45, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
She LANCBed in the past, but came back after a few days. Gunther8787 (talk) 08:20, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm just wondering why it's on the page as she is clearly not retired.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 08:32, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Asked this myself on the discord. She said she doesn't wanna get rid of it. Gunther8787 (talk) 17:54, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Did she explain why not? Obviously people have the right do do weird things. But it seems an odd thing to do.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 20:03, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
In any event I see it's gone now. Which I guess is some sort of response.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 08:17, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey oxy

Can you remove me from the Discord? I haven't really used it in a while.Jeh2ow Damn son! 10:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Desysopping Godless Raven

Wanna give a little more background for that?--"Shut up, Brx." 02:16, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Giving rights back until you can show abuse of sysop tools. AceModerator 02:19, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
I just wanted to add that this isn't the first time either. You can click here to see more. Additionally, Oxy has been stalking me on this wiki since the start, removing my edits without any reason (I have discussed this extensively with @EK) and baiting me the entire time (undoing my edits so that I revert them back, so forth) so that I get banned. Godless Raven 🌹 Heretic 06:08, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Honestly if this keeps up, this could be grounds for, (sigh) a coop case. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 06:14, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
I nearly started one but thought better of it... for now. But is is clear abuse of user rights. AceModerator 06:15, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Fuck off, Raven, I haven't done anything to you, you necrophiliac piece of fucking garbage. Oxyaena Harass 06:25, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
*Facepalm*--"Shut up, Brx." 06:26, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
@Sapient cogbag can help out here. Oxyaena Harass 06:30, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Jesus Oxy, fucking enough. AceModerator 06:36, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
oxy please stop. EK (talk) 09:06, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

please quit it

You might not think of me as a mod but I was elected as one so here I am with my mod hat on - you have no reason to revert that talk page comment by Raven and secondly you had no justifiable reason to promote them so please quit it. AceModerator 05:33, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Raven is a bad actor, I know him. He's bad news for this wiki. Oxyaena Harass 05:47, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
State your case to the mods or the coop. There's precedent for removing bad faith/fundamentally toxic users but so far you haven't demonstrated that (behind some accusations of necrophilia that you haven't bothered to back up)--"Shut up, Brx." 05:49, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
please don’t just unilaterally take actions like that. Promotion of a user is handled in the coop where you can state your case. AceModerator 05:53, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
your personal grudge against Raven is not grounds for breaking the site rules on multiple occasions to harass him. EK (talk) 09:05, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Stop your edit warring and actually engage with the content. Last warning. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 18:18, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Removing talk page edits

Don't do that. You really ought to know better by this point--"Shut up, Brx." 05:33, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Critical legal studies

At some point in the coming week or so, would you like to take a stab at reevaluating the Critical legal studies article with me? I think it could use some heavy editing, and I'd like your perspective on the matter. RoninMacbeth (talk) 16:38, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

I`m probably the person most knowledgeable about leftist theory here, of course I would. Thanks for the offer, I appreciate it. Oxyaena Harass 19:01, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

I am starting to get dysphoric with my body.

Hey @Oxyaena, I want to say something. I don't want those hairs on my legs or my adams apple. Any tips?--Delibirda the Annoying Grammar Nazi (talk) 07:40, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Get laser, it hurts but it's worth it. Shave while you're at it too. Oxyaena Harass 08:12, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
What do you mean by laser?--Delibirda the Annoying Grammar Nazi (talk) 08:42, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
@Delibirda This is what I`m talking about Oxyaena Harass 05:20, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

A more sincere retirement

Would involve stripping yourself of your user rights--"Shut up, Brx." 16:02, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure she will be back in less than 24h. I do hope her rights will be removed this time. — Godless Raven 🌹 Heretic 16:08, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Unblock me

I was promoted and blocked unilaterally. You give me shit for banning and desysopping trolls but no one bats an eye when I, a productive user, gets blocked and promoted. You people defend jackasses like Morris and Ken. Seriously, what the hell? I was the one who deteched myself, remember? Oxyaena Harass 05:07, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

@RoninMacbeth Can't do shit while blocked, sorry. Oxyaena Harass 05:19, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
It was only for 3 days so just take the block and when you come back stop all the bullshit that got you blocked in the first place. AceModerator 05:36, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Defend

I'm sorry Oxy but I can't defend you anymore until you chill out and at least try to respect the other user's concerns without insulting them and then doing whatever you want. I wish you would take a break and come back in a few weeks. If you can edit constructively I'm sure you'll get some of your user rights back quickly. I'm not a fan of the way some users have treated you but there is near universal expression of frustration, meaning some of them clearly must have a point. There are lots of other forums on the internet to make an impact in the meantime. Discord also has lots of writing circles and activism groups. There's also uncyclopedia, illogicopedia, Wikipedia and many groups on Wikia and wikidot. ShabiDOO 22:24, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

She'd be happier starting her own anarchistwiki.--Hastur! (talk) 22:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
anarchistwiki moment. EK (talk) 22:52, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Stop.

Stop reverting my edits for no reason other than spite. The quote about McCain was sourced and I am sure neither me nor you like the man (so this isn't a political disagreement). You were supposed to be retired, and it isn't good for your mental health to keep insisting. If you edit war, I will be forced to block you (which I don't want to do). If you actually think my edit was illegitimate, go to the talk page and explain why. Thank you. — Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 12:42, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Harassment claims

Oxy, I've noticed that you've several times made claims of harassment against yourself but provided insufficient evidence for your claim in such cases. It is inadvisable to do this, both because of The Boy Who Cried Wolf,Wikipedia and because it can be a form of harassment in itself:[1]

Making accusations of harassment can be inflammatory and hence these accusations may not be helpful in a dispute. It can be seen as a personal attack if harassment is alleged without clear evidence that the others' action is actually harassment, and unfounded accusations may constitute harassment themselves if done repeatedly. The result is often accusations of harassment on your part, which tends to create a nasty cycle. At the same time, claims of harassment should be taken seriously and not be summarily dismissed unless it becomes clear the accusations are not well-founded.

If you have a legitimate claim of being harassed, then bring the claim to our attention, but you absolutely must include clear reasons and links, and more than just one instance (unless it's something severe like doxing). Bongolian (talk) 18:02, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

You don't remember Morris? Go check the coop archives, specifically around May to November of 2019. Oxyaena Harass 18:32, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
I believe there is someone or more harassing Oxyaena but some of the people you allege to be Morris aren't the cases. Be careful when accusing anyone of being reregs. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 18:36, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
I don't deserve to be sysoprevoked. Oxyaena Harass 18:39, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
My statement was not with regards to the legitimacy of your claims, but that you have not always clearly documented them. Bongolian (talk) 18:50, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
I`m not that good with documentation, it's part of my diagnoses. Organizing things is a pain for me. I don't know why you need to insist on being so formal and bureaucratic about shit. Oxyaena Harass 18:53, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
Its a known fact that you permabanned a significant number of innocent users who you said were Morris and you have even admitted this. While it's true that for a brief period there were actual Morris related issues there is a significant problem in not documenting stuff because its unclear how many blocks that weren't proven incorrect were correct or not. If you remember the Treehouse discord server you will remember the extensive archives me and dysk made detailing every block for ban evasion and keeping evidence for each exactly to avoid this. EK (talk) 20:44, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
You can’t just hand wave away your inability to provide evidence of harassment with “It’s because of my diagnosis”. You have, on multiple occasions, accused people of harassing you but all I’d seen is people disagreeing with you and explaining why which you then throw a hissy fit and claim it’s harassment. AceModerator 22:22, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
[2] [3] [4] @Bongolian @LeftyGreenMario @Ace McWicked Oxyaena Harass 09:05, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
I can't see it since I`m, you know, sysoprevoked, but whenever shit like this happens trolls like to fuck with me, here's one from Dec 2019 Oxyaena Harass 09:19, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
That’s really pretty tame and coming from a guy who calls people corpsefuckers. And it’s all a year old now. You give it just as bad as you get it. Grow the fuck up man. You’re in sysoprevoke and I can’t see anyone reverting based upon the paucity of evidence your given for this constant harassment you speak of. You’d be better of rethinking and repositioning how you interact with the community instead of fighting it. AceModerator 09:24, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Her profile says "this user is female". Thunderclapper (talk) 08:30, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Oh I know that. Sometimes I just end up typing guy as a slang term but it isn’t meant to be offensive. Just typing without thinking. AceModerator 09:18, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Retired template

Could I point out yet again that you have a retired template on your user page but that you are clearly not retired. Why is this?Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 17:01, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

I can't edit my userpage since I`m sysoprevoked, and can't you leave this curmudgeon alone over such a minor issue? Oxyaena Harass 17:04, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
I could. But if it's such a minor issue why do you repeatedly keep positing it on your user page? It's that I sort of feel that "resigning" should actually mean something. If it goes up once a week then it's meaningless.Bob"Life is short and (insert adjective)" 12:37, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Do you want me to restore the previous version? — Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 17:10, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
No, but I want you to lower the protection to "autoconfirmed," please. Oxyaena Harass 17:20, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Done. — Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 17:23, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Hastur

@LeftyGreenMario @RWRW How is this okay? Blocking me for "lacking self awareness" when I can't unblock myself? Remember, this is ironic coming from Brx, who was in the exact same situation I am in for years. Oxyaena Harass 18:37, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

5 minutes...--Hastur! (talk) 18:39, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Oh, look, it's up already. --Hastur! (talk) 18:40, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Kindly don't spam my talk page. Oxyaena Harass 18:42, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
lol okay--Hastur! (talk) 18:43, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, going forward we should probably avoid putting blocks on Oxy's account since she is unable to remove them (unless the block is warranted, of course). --RWRW (talk) 23:35, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

How are you feeling?

It was a painful last few days I imagine. Are you feeling all right still? --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario! 05:52, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

It was, thank you for asking. I appreciate it. I`m getting better, but I still mourn her loss. My cats are my world, it was devastating. Oxyaena Harass 07:50, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
I lost my cat, a friend of about 19 years, two weeks ago. Really, it seemed like losing a family member. I'm glad you are feeling better.Ariel31459 (talk) 22:51, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
I haven't been paying enough attention here recently, so I only found out about this now. But I feel bad for you as well. And I hope you're ok.Coigreach (talk) 01:48, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Reverting my edits

Was there any particular reason why you reverted my edits on the Soviet Union article? — Goose4445 (talk) 19:43, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Edit warring, once again

[5]

Stop. You didn't even provide any reason for reverting the edit. — Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 14:13, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

That's not an edit war, that's a single revert, and China is not a "communist state." Oxyaena Harass 14:14, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Please undo it and argue on the talk page. Don't just revert. — Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 14:15, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

debate jar

Jar is an actual socialist. I wanna see you debate him. — Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 21:16, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

I`m not interested in debating, fuck off. Oxyaena Harass 03:54, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Not even a fellow comrade? Okay. Will you then stop drive-by editing articles that mention "communism", "socialism" or derivatives? — Godless Raven SDAPOe logo.svg talkstalkwalkbalk 🌹 Flag of Europe.svg 08:10, 29 July 2020 (UTC)